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Sr. Jois Mantilla continued his presentation. He mentioned that, along with at least 20 desiccated non-human corpses measuring ca. 60 cm, two ritual objects, apparently small effigies of the non-human beings had been found. The ritual objects measured 25-30 cm. Some of the debunkers/deniers had made use of the ritual objects to try to confuse the public about what had been found.
In the above image, I was interested to note that, in the rock art from Cuba, the head shape is correctly depicted. This cannot be a coincidence.
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The next speaker was Jois Mantilla, a journalist and investigator with Otromundo Comunicaciones. He spoke about the discovery, in Peru (between Palpa and Nazca) of 20 desiccated cadavers of non-human beings measuring about 60 cm in height., and one, also non-human, measuring 1.70 m in height. The discovery took place in 2015. These are not mummies, although they are popularly being called such. They were preserved by the diatomite in which they were found, and all their internal organs are present. Two of the bodies have eggs in the abdomen, and several contain metallic implants.
The Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) did the Carbon 14 analysis on two of the small cadavers, and determined that they date to approximately 1000 years before the present. One of the extraordinary characteristics of diatomite, which made it possible for these bodies to be preserved for a thousand year, is that it does not permit the presence of bacteria or fungi.
Translation of text on the image: "THE DISCOVERY" "Found near the end of 2015, near the famous Nazca lines." Illustrated in the image: the unique example of the larger species, and one of the cadavers belonging to the smaller species. It will be noticed that both species are three-fingered, and their fingers have five joints, instead of the three joints that we have,
The range of C14 dating for these cadavers is from 700 years before the present to 1800 years before the present.
In 2017, Jaime Maussán made the discovery public on his TV show. Immediately there was a flood of disinformation from debunkers and denialists, in an apparent effort to confuse the public about the validity and importance of the discovery. But these "negationists" did not actually do any studies themselves. Those in Mexico could easily have gone to UNAM to see the bodies, and do their own studies, but they did not.
In the last image we see (on the left) all the studies done by the debunkers and denialists (none), vs. the studies done on these non-human bodies by investigators.
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The next speaker was Lt. Robert Salas, USAF ret. He spoke of two cases (from the 1970s?) where UAPs had caused missiles (up to ten of them) in silos to become non-functional. This, of course, was taken very seriously by the Department of Defense. He also mentioned cases known to him from 1967, '68, and '70 where unknown objects had posed a threat to our aircraft or ships, citing these cases as a reason to take the phenomenon seriously and investigate it.
Next, Capt. Julio Darwish spoke on behalf of pilots and air traffic controllers of Mexico about the need to investigate the phenomenon and render the skies safer.
Enrique Kolbeck, an air traffic controller, spoke of several cases that he witnessed in the course of his duties, including: 1) Mazatlán Case, 1975; 2) Aeronaves de México Case, 1994; 3) Morelia, 2002 (in which 15-20 large metallic objects delayed the takeoff of a plane for 15 minutes and caused a near-collision); and 4) Campeche, in which a Mexican plane involved in an operation against drug traffickers, said plane being equipped with special heat-sensing IR devices, encountered and recorded an unidentified flying object.
Andrea Pérez Simondini, a member of the ALAS pilots' organization and Director of the Commission for the Study of the Ovni (UFO) Phenomenon of the Republic of Argentina, gave an account of a couple of UFO/UAP encounters, including one in Bariloche, in the mountains near the Chilean border. She reiterated the need for the phenomenon to be taken seriously and studied in depth.
The Hon. Yoshiharu Asakawa, a member of the Chamber of Deputies of the Japanese Congress, was the next to speak. He began speaking in Japanese, to a roomful of people who had no idea what he was saying, two minutes and twenty-five seconds before the arrival of the interpreter. This was awkward, indeed. He told how a black UFO, which separated into four parts and did not reflect the setting sun, had aroused his interest in 1986, when he was a school student. He said that, although Japan is one of the countries with the highest number of UFO/UAP sightings, he has several times been separated from his Congressional group for speaking about it. He thanked the organizers of this hearing for giving him the opportunity to speak freely about the phenomenon, which he cannot do in Japan.
The next speaker was Roni Tadeu Vernet Braga, of the Brazilian Center for Physical Investigations. He gave some history of sightings in Brazil, and said that the first one had taken place in the seventeenth century. (This, of course, begs the question as to whether there had previously been sightings by the indigenous peoples.) He said that the first photo of a UFO had been taken in Brazil in 1952. There were also prominent sightings in 1957-58, and they have been continuing, in increasing numbers, up to the present.
The next speaker was Michael Vaillant, one of the experts of the GEIPAN unit of the National Center for Space Studies (France). Mr. Vaillant spoke in French, which I was not able to hear because of the simultaneous translation into Spanish (done, evidently, by a French person). Mr. Vaillant proposed the formation of a new international body to investigate the UFO/UAP/OVNI phenomenon, saying that it could use the GEIPAN database.
At this point, I am again interrupting my report on this hearing.
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I speak Spanish, but I am not a stenographer. This means that I will necessarily be "hitting the high points."
The hearing was opened by Deputy Sergio Carlos Gutiérrez Luna, who welcomed all those present and introduced the participants: Jaime Maussán Flota, who is arguably the most well-known figure in Mexican ufology, and would be the master of ceremonies for this hearing; Avi Loeb, Harvard astrophysicist and Director of the Department of Astronomy at Harvard University (who would give his presentation remotely); Mariano Tello, of INAI; Ryan Graves, a retired USN pilot; Lieutenant Robert Salas, USAF Retired; Capt. Julio Darwish, a Mexican air controller; Enrique Kolbeck, also a Mexican air controller; Andrea Pérez Sinondini, from Argentina, a member of the ALAS pilots' association and Director of the Commission for the Study of the Ovni (UFO/UAP) Phenomenon of the Republic of Argentina; Yoshiharu Asakawa, a member of the Chamber of Deputies of the Japanese Congress; Rony Tadeu Vernet Braga, of the Brazilian Center of Physical Investigations; Michael Vaillant, one of the experts of the GEIPAN unit for the National Center for Space Studies (France); Jois Mantilla, journalist and investigator for Otromundo Comunicaciones; José de Jesús Zalce Benítez, who works for the Mexican Navy and is Director of the Scientific Institute for Health and is a specialist in Forensic Sciences, Ricardo Rangel Martínez, an expert in Immunogenetics and Histocompatibility.
Deputy Gutiérrez Luna then turned the podium over to Jaime Maussán. The first speaker was Avi Loeb, who participated remotely, speaking in English (which I could not hear, due to simultaneous interpretation in Spanish).Loeb made the case for the high likelihood that we are not alone in the Cosmos and the necessity to take it seriously so that we can eventually take our place among the civilizations of the Galaxy.
The next speaker was Mariano Tello, Director of the Center for Attention to the Public of INAI. His Center is responsible for attending to what we would call FOIA requests, of which he said there were a record number in 2022. He spoke about the people's right to information, and how to submit a request. He also committed to being an ally of those seeking information on this phenomenon.
The next speaker was Ryan Graves, who spoke in English, and again I could not hear him because of interference from the simultaneous interpretation. Graves is a retired USN pilot who became well-known as a result of his testimony to the US Congress on July 26. He recounted a 2014 event in which he confronted an unidentified object near Virginia Beach. The object was a dark cube within a circle, and it traveled at a speed greater than Mach 1. The object remains unidentified to this day. He said that the people of the US deserve a secure airspace. He lamented the absence of an adequate protocol for reporting, and the frequent stigmatization of those who report. He said that studies of the phenomenon are being undertaken at Stanford and Harvard, and there needs to be less secrecy and more release of information.
I'm tired, so I will interrupt this report at this point.
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